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I have a 1.8T multitronic from new with 39000 miles with the same problem. The problem started at 33000 miles and was very intermittent. It mainly occurred when the engine was at 1600 and 2100 revs. Now the jerkiness is permanently there and it is getting worse. The garage say that it is normal.
 

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I too have an Audi A6 CVT and again with the sam shuddering problem. It's good to know about the upgrade for the clutch to a 7 plate kit.

As well as the shuddering problem, the car has another one....when changing gears, the computer display doesn't show the letters of the gears (P,N,R,D). The display falshes these letters now and again. When you move the gear lever into trip mode, the numbers for the gears don;t come up either!! In addition to this, sometimes when you want to change gear to revers, the gear isn't selected and your stood revving the engine but the car doesn;t move!!!!!

Has anyone experienced this one before?
 

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Update on my 'fixed' A6 - the juddering is starting again - took it into Audi yesterday. I'm now looking at a new multitronic gearbox, circa £5K. Don't know whether to trade it in at an unsuspecting Audi dealership against a a manual 'box, or get the job done and have a (hopefully) bulletproof car for at least 2 years... Audi have offered me a 40% discount but it still over 3 grand. Because i've already had the clutch upgrade, the only other fix available is the new box. Great.
 

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Hi I presume you have a multitronic gearbox I hade the same after 60000 kms or 40000 miles they changed the gearbox and it now is perfect , did they change the gearbox??????? all the best TErry
 

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I have a '99 A6 Avant Estate Auto Tiptronic and, yes, I'm having the same 'jerkiness' problem. I have a 6 month warranty with mine. In the process of arranging for dealer to have it back to look at. I shall tell them I don't want it back until it's fixed!
 

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the same happened to my audi a6 2003 2.4, whenever i was backing up it did that, so i got so upset that i took my car to the audi dealership and they gave me a new car(back in 2003)!! but the same problem happened
 

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Discussion Starter #28
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In response to the many emails I have received about my 2003 A6 CVT....
After taking it back to the dealership more than 5 times for the same issue, I was more than relieved to hand all the paperwork over to a lemon law attorney.

Late last year, Audi capitulated and I now have a replacement 2006 A6 3.2 Quattro. What a car!

Even after all of that, I am still an Audi fan and would certainly recommend the A6 as one of the finest cars on the road.

Happy driving!

rlb.
 

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so you gave your lawyer all the info and he then did that? because i would like to know what was wrong and i would liek to know if the same can happen to me, because my has has SEVERAL problems and the audi seems to never find any problem with my car at all
 

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I have the same shudder problem with my 2.5 TDI 2002. It shudders when "shifting" at lower RPM's like 1200-1400. Same happends in drive or tiptronic mode, although this is much less in tiptronic because it usually shifts at higher RPM's. However, I have no more warranty on this car, so I am wonderring what is best to do. I will appreciate all advises.

And yes, VAG diagnostic computers reports error 18149 - Clutch pressure adaptation at limit.

1. Shell I try just to replace this 5-plates clutch with 7-plates clutch? Is there some gearbox computer software upgrade needed also? I am not sure I can do this kind of service in my country (Serbia), though. Official dealer told me about some official company repairing just automatic gearboxes, but these guys told me they don't repair multitronic, just tiptronic. Does anyone know some service in Hungary or Bulgaria able to do this? Otherwise, I supose the closest good service is in Austria. Can someone tell me if this completely removes the problem and what is approximate price for the repairment?

2. Or shell I just buy a new multitronic gearbox which costs 6500 euros here in Serbia. This is official dealers price and I have to return to them my old gearbox. Is it possible to get this cheaper in some other surrounding country (Hungary, Bulgaria, Romania, Austria)?

3. Another solution is to buy another used multitronic gearbox, approx. 1800 euros, but then how I know how long it will last? And I even don't know if it already has seven plates clutch or is it old version with five plates clutch.

4. Or to switch to manual gearbox and finish with the problems? I can buy used manual gearbox for approx. 800 euros. Total cost of manual gearbox and all other parts (pedals, handle, ...) including changing in service would be approx. 1500 euros.

5. Finally, is it possible to put some other kind of automatic gearbox (tiptronic) into this car?

Please help, I am desperate with this problem.
 

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Jerking Multitronic

Hi all!

I am a "rookie" in this forum and this is my first post so, this is also like an introduction, I guess...

Well, I have Audi A6, model year 2002, equipped with a 1.8T and a CVT and I had a same kind of problems with my CVT, what the other members in this forum seems to have.

A jerking occured in 70 000 km (~44 000 miles) at 1000...2000 rpm and it was very annoying phenomenon :mad: .

I took a contact with my local Audi Center (in Finland) and they told me, that it is more like a feature than a failure in the first generation of CVT's. In addition they told me, that repairing this "feature" will cost about €2 000 and of course, a guarantee period of my vehicle was closed already. They were going to replace the original 6-plate multi plate clutch with a 7-plate multi plate clutch.
I replied, that I have not any intentios to pay all of costs with myself and I assume, that the Audi's Import Dealer have to take they share of all costs.

So, I got a message from the Audi Center that the Import Dealer will give "a good will guarantee" and they would take a 50% share of all costs of repairing my CVT.
I accepted that and I had to pay €1 000, which was absolutely too much from my point of view. But I hadn't very much choises...at least, I have now well working CVT.
 

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Well, original clutch of 2002 multitronic cars should be 5-plate, but doesn't matter, this is the problem anyhow. 5 or 6, whatever.

Did you repair your car in Finland or?

My problem is that I can't repair it in Serbia (no multitronic service, just tiptronic), so I thought to drive my car to Hungary, Austria or something like that, but I have no address of such a service. My local dealer should know this, but I didn't ask yet.

Another problem is that I bought used car and my car is not imported through my local dealer, it is imported by private person, so I am not sure if and who I can ask for discount. This is obviously Audi's problem and they should have replaced all broken transmissions on their cost.
 

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Hi acim!

Regarding the issue of the number of clutchplates, I agree with you, because I let told to me by a local Audi dealer that the clutchplate issue is right as you said. But at the same time, Audi's ELSA-software shows, that all CVT's with 1.8T engines has equipped with a 5-plate clutch. Who knows the truth...

Yes, I repaired my CVT here in Finland. But no doubt, it is a little problem if there isn't professional regarding CVT in your country. Altough, I think that you should get an information of Audi Services e.g. in Austria or Hungary very easily.

Also, I think that there is no matter, who has been importer of your car, is it private person or Audi's import organization. Guarantee issues should be the same in both cases.

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The main problem is that a multi plate clutch worns out abnormally, this is unwanted feature of the first generation CVT's. Obviously Audi has been made some kind of mistake about design torque. Audi says, that the first generation CVT is dimensioned for 280 Nm torque, in real, it doesn't manage even 210 Nm torque (which is in 1.8T). The CVT with 7-plate multi plate clutch is used e.g Audi A6 2.7 TDI, which generates 380 Nm output torque. Further information available in link below: Audi World Site > Company > Comfortable long-distance specialist: Audi A6 2.7 TDI with multitronic

Br.
JK
 

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Hi Audissimo!

Huh, I have no luck to repair my car here is Serbia.

Previously I spoke with ex. Audi official dealer in Serbia, Autokomerc (Autokomerc Holding) and now I spoke with current official dealer, Porche AG Serbia (Audi SCG - Home) and they basically told me the same thing. Both these services can just change oil and filter in multitronic gearbox and if something else is broken inside, they just can replace the whole gearbox. If I give them my broken multitronic transmission, I have to pay 6.500 euros for reburbished one and this is just for the gearbox, not for the service itself. So, total cost might be, by my estimation, 7.000-8.000 euros. Silly!

And none of them could tell me if there is any service in surrounding countries (primarily Hungary and Austria) able to repair this for some normal price, like you payed. 2000 euros is acceptable price for me, but not 7000-8000.

How long ago have you repaired your transmission? I am wonderring is this repairment durable? Did you get some warranty for the repairment?

If I have no other solution, I would even come to Finland to repair this :)

Can you, please, ask your Audi dealer if there is some service in Hungary or Austria able to repair the same thing? Obviously, I can't find the answer here in Serbia and it might be possible in Finland for some strange reason :). I could try over the Internet, but I don't speak German and not many Austrians speak English, so this can be a problem too. It's different from Scandinavia where most of people speak English. Thank you in advance!
 

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I just received additional information from official Audi dealer in Serbia. They told me they asked their technical support (probably in Austria) and they got the answer that there is no official service to repair multitronic transmission. They said all official Audi services can just change the gearbox for refurbished or the new one. They also said there might be unofficial services able to do this, but they have no contact. Huh, I can't believe this.

Can you give me the name (Web site, mail address, phone) of the service which repaired your multitronic? Help please! :)
 

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Hi!

The pricesyou mentioned above are absolutely too much. I think, that all official services authorized by Audi, have to keep such of professional skills, that they can manage this kind of problems without replacing a hole gearbox.

Regarding my car, Audi service replaced only a multi plate clutch with its axle. It took 3 days (they haven't had all essential parts). Now, I see what I can do for you with this issue.

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I managed to contact "Porsche Inter Auto GmbH & Co KG" from Wien and they told me I can repair my car in Klagenfurt - Austria, which is 680km from my hometown, not so bad. Clutch replacement would cost aprox. 1200 euros and the whole gearbox replacement would cost cca. 5000 euros, which is less than in Serbia, but still quite expensive. Bad thing about clutch replacement is that they can't give any guarantee how long it will last. Did you get some durability guarantee from your service? This is what worries my, otherwise I would go for clutch replacement, but it seems success is different from case to case.

They mentioned it may be possible to get some discount for the repairment because this car was originally bought in Germany, but they told me they are going to try "good will" of Audi when I come to Klagenfurt with my car. All this is much more promissing than information I got in Serbia :)


Now, I can't understand how this is possible. Official Audi representative in Serbia is owned by "Porsche AG Austria" and service guys in Serbia have no good information about this problem and Austrian guys have. Hmm, this is why my country is still not in European :D. We have to learn a lot and to be more polite and respect customers better. At least, it's good to have good support in European countries (Austria etc.)

Audissimo, thank you for your help and please let me know about clutch guarantee and durability.
 

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Hi Acim,

I am glad to hear, that you are going to get your Audi's Multitronic repaired. Sometimes it is very hard to find a valid information for this kind of situations. It sounds reasonable price what you are going to pay for repairement of your gearbox. I can tell you, that all Audi's parts has a two years guarantee by Audi's manufacturer, especially when you use official Audi Service.

That "good will" guarantee by Audi is more easier to get, if your car has a complete service manual with official Audi Service stamp. At least, in this case they can see, that your car is serviced right in time and every time when it needs to be.

I am sure, that it is much easier to accept a few hundred kilometers drive and pay something like 1,2k€ to get your car in order again than to pay 5 k€.

I would like to wish you a good luck for your repairing trip. Hopefully they can keep their promises. Please, let me hear how all things happend.
 

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Thank you very much for support :)

Unfortunatelly, my service book is filled in for a bit less than two years (last service at 40.366km) and probably then this car is imported to Serbia and there are no further service stamps. When I bougth it, I went to official service again, but oil change in the transmission box was done by some Volkswagen service, not Audi. So, Audi's "good will" can be difficult in my case, although if I have to pay 1.2k€ then this is not a big problem. I need Audi's "support" jut in case of 5k€.


But, as I could read on the Internet, originally Audi claimed there is no need for multitronic maintenance, but latter on they've changed this policy and said that oil and filter has to be changed at 60.000km. So, they realised latter that multitronic was not strong enough to cope with lot's of Nm. But, you never know with this. I will try my luck and see what happends. Once more, thank you and I'll let you know how the things are going on.
 

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I too have an Audi A6 CVT and again with the sam shuddering problem. It's good to know about the upgrade for the clutch to a 7 plate kit.

As well as the shuddering problem, the car has another one....when changing gears, the computer display doesn't show the letters of the gears (P,N,R,D). The display falshes these letters now and again. When you move the gear lever into trip mode, the numbers for the gears don;t come up either!! In addition to this, sometimes when you want to change gear to revers, the gear isn't selected and your stood revving the engine but the car doesn;t move!!!!!

Has anyone experienced this one before?
Hi Thread,

I am experiencing the same problems with the reverse gear not engaging and the display erroneously flashing me. Have you managed to fix the problem? If so, what did you do? I believe it to be the gearbox oil pressure, or dirty valves.
 
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