Shell Gas and ethanol free gas and mobil one oil

[falafel11]

ok so I currently go to a place to get ethanol free gas. its about ten cents more per gallon. i also get 93 octane. Does anybody know anything about shell gas and the if it is good for the 2.8 or if the nitrogen and detergents have adverse affects.

oil.
I use mobil one and cant find anything other than fram filters. Is that my best choice. again i drive a 2.8 any advice thanks

[MonroeS4]

In the NorthEast (NY,NJ,CT,etc) all winter gas is Oxygenated..IE Ethanol 10% by volumn added. This hepls the environment but hurts milage. Ethanol is about 30% less efficient than gas. I see about 2-3 MPG loss in the winter. Some from the fuel, the roads covered in snow whatever...2-3 MPG less any way. Not sure if PA(Lancaster) is also a state that mandates Ethanol. If it does you may be paying more for the normal winter gas. Why are you afraid of this mixture?
I got 362K and 196K on my last two V8 trucks with no engine problems, 260K on a '88 Audi 90 and now have 164K on my '00 S4. All on NY gas and no engine issues. Can you tell us why you believe there is a reason to be wary? Thanks

[nerys]

Hope you don't mind a non audi driver jumping in here but I am seeking E0 really badly.

Let me describe why.

1988 Jeep Cherokee 493,000 miles (no not a typo)

Pre Ethanol 22-23mpg with 25mpg highway achieved multiple times
On E10 max 19mpg 20 if I hypermile the crap out of it and ONLY with wawa gas (lower ethanol content than the rest so far)

1992 Club Wagon

Pre Ethanol 19mpg sold
On E10 MAX 15mpg a year after E10 I went to michigan and got E0 gas for the trip 4 tanks of gas (35gallon tank a lot of miles) 19mpg again. Came home to SE PA SNJ back to 15mpg on E10

1996 Plymouth Voyager

Pre Ethanol 28mpg solid
On E10 19-20mpg 21 if I am lucky and hypermile the crap out of it.

1994 Geo Metro Xfi

Pre Ethanol 58+mpg without even trying I bet I could break 60mpg hypermiling mildly.
On E10 45-47mpg 50mpg if I do not pass 45mph.

Yeah E10 sucks. the cars "run" fine but I did the math. E10 means I spend $1249 MORE DOLLARS in gasoline every year at current $2.60 pricing. I say "run" fine because besides the Metro (relative new car for me) E10 seems to have murdered the fuel pump in every single car this family has owned. in 493,000 miles I never had to replace a fuel pump. in my pops 40 years driving he has NEVER had to replace a fuel pump. within a year of the E10 push we replace 9 fuel pumps. Somethings hinky here.

Thats a lot of freaking money.